App Browser Woes.....

David Burgun dburgun at dsl.pipex.com
Fri Jul 15 04:05:51 EDT 2005


Hi Eric,

Yes, I agree, I don't want to blame the programmers too much either, 
but their really should be more control on what goes into a 
Production piece of software that is being used to generate other 
programs.More testing, but also someone that makes a decision of what 
goes in and what does not. It should NOT be left to a programmer to 
make this decision. Usually they are too focused on the problem in 
hand and do not see the big picture or the terrible chaos that can be 
caused by their "Quick-Fixes".

As a programmer I have been guilty of this in the past. Thankfully we 
had a good QA and Release manager that threw my efforts out so as not 
to inflict my good intentions of the unsuspecting public!

Programmers should remember the old saying - "The Road to Hell is 
Paved with Good Intentions".

Where can I get your object picker from? I will download it, I would 
rather do that then patch RunRev.

And Best Regards to you from a Very Hot and Sunny London! Glad I got 
up early so I can get off early - TGIF!

And a Great Weekend to all RunRev'ers wherever you may be!
Dave


>Hi Dave,
>
>I don't want to blame runRev guys too rudely: they got a false good idea :-)
>As a programmer, I have to confess that it can happen to me too...
>But, on the other hand, as a user of a commercial product named 
>Revolution, I expect more serious testing before any release...
>
>As Jim pointed it, my Objects Picker plugin works pretty well and, 
>as for layers management provides "arrows" buttons to reorganise 
>objects layers in a very convenient graphical way. You can even 
>change multiple objects layers (non contiguous if you wish it) in 
>one fell swoop and the list is of course immediately updated :-)
>
>Best Regards from Paris,
>
>Eric Chatonet.
>
>Le 15 juil. 05 à 09:28, David Burgun a écrit :
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Well whoever allowed this to go into a production product need their
>>brains testing! Sorry but that's the plain truth of the matter. Talk
>>about shooting yourself in the foot! At the VERY VERY VERY least it
>>should be a Preference that is defaulted to off, and the caption of
>>this pref should read "Do you want to save a small amount of refresh
>>time but totally confuse yourself and make RunRev look as if it has
>>been programmed by idiots"
>>
>>Sorry for this Rant, and in general RunRev is a really cool tool and
>>I love using it, but I am really getting sick of stupid little IDE
>>bugs/features that cause me lots of wasted time.
>>
>>Take for example this particular refresh problem, is there ANYONE on
>>this list that would want this functionality? Who in their right mind
>>would sacrifice an up to date list view for a split-seconds worth of
>>refresh time?
>>
>>I was slighly upset when I thought it was a genuine bug that had
>>slipped in, now I know it was done deliberately I am FUMING!!!!! How
>>do I officially complain to RunRev about this?
>>
>>Eric, If you do work out a patch Stack I would be really grateful if
>>you would send me a copy.
>>
>>All the Best
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave and Chris,
>>>
>>>To be precise, the problem came with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with 2.5)
>>>In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current
>>>controls list into a cache and rebuild this list only when a control
>>>was deleted or added.
>>>So, you have just to open the script of the revApplicationOverview
>>>stack and search for the revControlList function and comment the
>>>following lines:
>>>
>>>  if the number of lines in lControlCache[pCard] is tNumControls
>>>  then return lControlCache[pCard]
>>>
>>>I have no time now but may be I shall find a couple of minutes to
>>>write a patch stack to morrow :-)
>>>
>>>Le 14 juil. 05 à 15:17, David Burgun a écrit :
>>>
>>>>How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number
>>>>or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window?
>>>>I am running RunRev 2.6.5 build 108 on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.2.
>>>>Does anyone else have this problem??
>>>>
>>>
>>>Copy to runRev support.
>>>
>>>Best Regards from Paris,
>>>
>>>Eric Chatonet.
>
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