Mac/Win UI question

[ron barber]

Hi,

It seems like Mac used to dim menus that had no active/relevant 
menuitems but I don't see that happening anymore. Is that since OS X? 
Menuitems dim but not the menus themselves. See TextEdit, TextWrangler 
our own Rev.

Typically this is occurs when to a Windows or Format menu when no 
window is open.

Apple's HIG (thanks Richard for the link) seems to be ambiguous:
"If all of the items in a menu or submenu are unavailable, the menu or 
submenu title is dimmed. The user can still open the menu, but all of 
its items are dimmed to indicate that these items are not available in 
the present context."

Do you dim only menuitems or do you also dim  the menus on the Mac?


Windows says: "If all items in a menu are disabled, disable its menu 
title. If you disable a menu item or its title, the user can still 
browse to it or choose it."

Is this consistent within the WIN enviroment? Do you dim the menus and 
menuitems appropriately in your apps?

Thanks
Ron