Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

MisterX b.xavier at internet.lu
Mon Jan 24 13:14:09 EST 2005


The concept was amazing...

the gui confusing but today it would be cool
in 3D with runrev scripts in it!

;)
Xavier dreaming of an ideal ide ;) 

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> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter T. Evensen
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 17:50
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)
> 
> I developed 5 engines (21 titles) in Prograph CPX.  I loved 
> Prograph, although I was disappointed when they finally 
> released it for Windows and CPX (the ABCs) didn't live up to 
> the cross-platform promises (it took a lot of work to work 
> around bugs on Windows).  It seems their application classes 
> were Mac-centric and so it was difficult to shoe-horn them 
> onto the Window's API.
> 
> I was sad that Pictorius tried to make themselves into an 
> internet company, rather than pursuing Prograph and making it 
> a better cross-platform development environment.
> 
> I am surprised to see it reborn as Marten.  Looking at the 
> website, though, it appears that it is Mac only.
> 
> At 10:22 AM 1/15/2005, you wrote:
> 
> >On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
> >
> >>As some of you may know, I wrote one of two books published on 
> >>Prograph before that product/company essentially went 
> belly-up. (Hmmm. 
> >>I hope I don't have the decidedly unhelpful effect on *all* the 
> >>companies whose products I write books about. heh heh)
> >>
> >>My friend (like me) was a fairly ardent fan of Prograph and we were 
> >>both sad to see it go away. It truly is the ONLY completely visual 
> >>programming environment I've ever seen and although it 
> takes a while 
> >>to wrap your head around it, its power was truly amazing. And it 
> >>really is fully object-oriented.
> >
> >I paid the big bucks for Prograph.  It had a name like 
> Prograph CPX 1.0 
> >or something.  I figured since I liked LabVIEW and functional 
> >programming, that it would be great for me.
> >
> >The problem was that it crashed every few minutes and didn't work in 
> >between.  It had zillions of bugs and zero support.  I threw it away.
> >That was so frustrating since I wanted it to work.  I 
> imagine a lot of 
> >folks were cheated this way.
> >
> >So, it wasn't you, Dan.  The company cheated folks and 
> forced them to 
> >turn the name into a curse word.  They did it to themselves.
> >
> >(I didn't see any OOP.)
> >
> >Dar
> >
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