use-revolution Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
(Rick Harrison)
2. Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
(Andre Garzia)
3. Re: Open Directory reminder (Richard Gaskin)
4. Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
(Rick Harrison)
5. Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
(Andre Garzia)
6. Re: Interactive Site listing CGI (Peter Reid)
7. Can't type foreign characters like ?mlaut in my fields...
(Frank Leahy)
8. What Is Triggering The Menu? (Scott Rossi)
9. Re: MP3 without QuickTime on Windows (Jeffrey Reynolds)
10. Re: Problem! Inaccessible substack (Jerry Balzano)
11. Re: What Is Triggering The Menu? (J. Landman Gay)
12. Re: CGI access to PostGreSQL (Sivakatirswami)
13. Re: Arrays (Alex Tweedly)
14. .mov on Windows (Stephen Van Esch)
15. Graphics stored externally? (Stephen Van Esch)
16. Re: .mov on Windows (Scott Rossi)
17. Re: Graphics stored externally? (Scott Rossi)
18. Re: Resizing stack to any screen size! (Paul Salyers)
19. Re: What Is Triggering The Menu? (Scott Rossi)
20. Re: Postgres (Hershel Fisch)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:03:37 -0500
From: Rick Harrison 
Subject: Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: 
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On Feb 7, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Rick,
>
> thanks for the cumpliments! That stack is a collection of works from 
> many enthusiasts round here! I compressed the stack with standard zip 
> format just for you! :D
>
> it's now at http://www.soapdog.org/rev/SMTPRaw.rev.zip
>
>
> Have fun!
> andre
>

Andre,

Thanks!

I tried it and I'm getting the following error.

error: could not get MX Records, try again in 5 secs

Any idea what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Rick

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:08:06 -0200
From: Andre Garzia 
Subject: Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <88b04d1fbc096fe614d16e7fb4194c6e at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=MACINTOSH; format=flowed


On Feb 7, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:

> Andre,
>
> Thanks!
>
> I tried it and I'm getting the following error.
>
> error: could not get MX Records, try again in 5 secs
>
> Any idea what might be causing this?

This means that communication with DNS server is wrong somehow... try 
emailing other email... Try emailing me at soapdog at mac.com, we know 
that .Mac SMTP server is friendly enough for this to work. Then report 
back here! :D

Andre


>
> Thanks,
>
-- 
Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 ð BRAZIL
http://studio.soapdog.org


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:14:42 -0800
From: Richard Gaskin 
Subject: Re: Open Directory reminder
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <4207E852.8000509 at fourthworld.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Dom wrote:
> Richard Gaskin wrote:
> 
> 
>>
> 
> 
> Hmmmm... seems that there is NO "Transcript" category in French!
> And there is no link to submit a new category -- unless you are an
> editor..
> 
> I have one or two web sites to submit 
> -- but these are somewhat dormant, by now ;-)

If the sites are dormant than I'm unclear about the usefulness of 
creating a new category for them.

You can add them to the main Transcript listing with the word "FRENCH" 
as the first word in all caps to help other French speakers find it easily.

If enough sites are out there discussing Transcript in French you can 
suggest to the category manager that a new sub-category be added.

-- 
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Media Corporation
___________________________________________________________
Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:17:46 -0500
From: Rick Harrison 
Subject: Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <30a503ad9bcca5e9779fa22a57f581b4 at all-auctions.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Andre,

Now I'm getting:

error: server was offended by our HELO Message.

Does this mean that the program won't work with my email server
because it is looking for Authentication?

Thanks in advance.

Rick


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:26:36 -0200
From: Andre Garzia 
Subject: Re: Success with Sending email without a SMTP Server!!!!
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <5caa24ce01c1fe0b51147d6ae3a43145 at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=MACINTOSH; format=flowed


On Feb 7, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:

>
> Does this mean that the program won't work with my email server
> because it is looking for Authentication?
>
>

Among other things, yes... It might be failing due to an auth error or 
because your server is making a reverse lookup on the DNS database to 
see if you're an "blessed" SMTP server for the domain you claim to be.

That stack and it's sendmail routines were created to enable a 
simple-no-fuss way to make apps that report back errors and feedback 
reports to a central or to solve everyday trouble. It's aimed at 
sending email without the need of entering account information. If you 
own an eMail account and are willing to use it to send email in a more 
polite way, like sending it to your SMTP server then trusting your SMTP 
server to talk to the destination SMTP server then you should use Shao 
Sean libEmail and libSMTP stacks.

I just create a quick stack for the possible scenario where a user do 
not know it's own account info and yet you need to send email. It's not 
a all-situations-solved solution.


you might try telneting your email server on port 25 and trying to use 
it by hand... to see what the problem is...

Andre


-- 
Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 ð BRAZIL
http://studio.soapdog.org


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:28:29 +0000
From: Peter Reid 

Subject: Re: Interactive Site listing CGI
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: 

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

>Hi Peter,
>
>I think this is a case where one can transplant
>regular Transcript into the rev-cgi arena. From a
>recent post :
>
>
>Of course in that script you can skip the folders, if
>you're not looking to make available the files in the
>subfolders.
>
>So you'll end up with something like :
>--
>on startUp
>
> ## STEP 1 :: read the arguments
> # read the query string passed from the webserver
> put $QUERY_STRING into tQueryStringA
> # turn it into an array for convenient access
> split tQueryStringA using "&" and "="
> # make sure to URLDecode the arguments
> put the keys of tQueryStringA into tArgNames
> repeat for each line tArgName in tArgNames
> put URLDecode(tQueryStringA[tArgName]) \
> into tArgumentsA[URLDecode(tArgName]
> end repeat
>
> ## STEP 2 :: read the files
> # now that we have our arguments, move on to the dir
> set the defaultDirectory to & \
> tArgumentsA["directory"]
> # read all the files in the chosen directory
> put the files into tFiles
>
> ## STEP 3 :: build the file list as an HTML page
> # you will want to change the formatting
> put "" into tBuffer
> put "" after \
> tBuffer
> put "" after tBuffer
> put "Directory Contents :" && \
> tArgumentsA["directory"] after tBuffer
> put "
---------------------------------
" after tBuffer
> # loop over the files
> repeat for each line tFile in tFiles
> put ">%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20URLEncode(tArgumentsA[" \
> URLEncode(tFile) & quote & ">" after tBuffer
> put tFile & "
" after tBuffer
> end repeat
> put "
---------------------------------
" after tBuffer
>
> ## STEP 4 :: send the result to the webserver
> # start with the headers
> put "Content-Type: text/html" & cr
> put "Content-Length: && the length of tBuffer
> put cr & cr & tBuffer
>
> # end of the cgi-script
>end startUp
>--
>
>Hope this gets you closer to your solution,
>
>Jan Schenkel.

Thanks Jan, I'll see where this takes me.

Peter
-- 
Peter Reid
Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK
Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576
E-mail: preid at reidit.co.uk
preid at reidit.demon.co.uk
Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk
http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:40:24 +0000
From: Frank Leahy 
Subject: Can't type foreign characters like ?mlaut in my fields...
To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: <41F02410-7959-11D9-B2DD-000A9580FCCE at backtalk.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,

I seem to be unable to type things like ümlaut and çedilla in the 
fields in my application (Arial font). I can paste them in, but I 
can't type them. Any ideas what is going wrong? RunRev 2.2.

Thanks,
-- Frank

Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users
See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:06:37 -0800
From: Scott Rossi 
Subject: What Is Triggering The Menu?
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

On OSX, I set up a menu with 1, 2 and 3 as command keys for one of the menu
buttons. When pressing the keys on the keyboard, the menu flashes as if
triggered, but no menuPick message is generated and the menu does nothing.
If I change the command keys to letters, for example, the menuPick message
is sent and the menu operates as expected. How can I use numbers as command
key equivalents for menu options?

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
-----
E: scott at tactilemedia.com
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:26:04 -0500
From: Jeffrey Reynolds 
Subject: Re: MP3 without QuickTime on Windows
To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: <4d4e55189adccca00dc3602ea9797b9c at siphonophore.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

You will get different messages from Apple with each case you present, 
to different folks and at different times. When i have pressed a 
question they have usually ended up reverting to the letter of the 
license instead of waiving stuff. This has come up for me about a dozen 
times over the last decade. It was really funny when I did the Earth 
Explorer CD-ROM with them years ago (the first disc in Apple's ill 
fated CD-ROM publishing attempt), when these question came up it went 
around and around w/in apple for about two weeks before i got any 
straight answers. That was the early days of QT so it was all new...

I understand what Apple is trying to do and dont really disagree with 
it. Its just that you should read the agreement carefully and make sure 
your app can play w/in the rules so you dont get a client in dutch 
later if something was out of bounds or the client wants to do 
something different later. And I have to admit I have not looked at the 
qt license in the last 4-6 months since the question last came up! In 
looking at it they have simplified it some, but it still has this 
clause:

"Each Licensee Product must require End-Users not having QuickTime 6 on 
their computers to install the QuickTime Software using the QuickTime 
Installer."

they have dropped the installer stuff they use to have.

cheers,

jeff


Jeffrey Reynolds
6620 Michaels Dr
Bethesda, MD 20817
301.469.8562
jeff at siphonophore.com

On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:02 PM, use-revolution-request at lists.runrev.com 
wrote:

> Jeffrey Reynolds wrote:
>> The main problem with including the quicktime installer is its license
>> agreement. You must make your application to only work with the 
>> version
>> of qt (or later) at the time you release your product.
>
> I think I missed that clause of the license agreement.
>
> I wrote an Apple rep some time ago to clarify some of the questions 
> that
> pop up here about it, and got her permission to post her reply to the 
> list:
> > 023869.html>
>
> The license agreement itself is available at:
> > quicktime.html>
>
> Any questions about it can be directed to the contact person noted 
> there:
> 
>
> Remember that Apple's goal is to evangelize QuickTime, not annoy
> developers. If anything seems onerous about their license agreement it
> can probably be clarified with a quick email to that address.


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:41:27 -0800
From: Jerry Balzano 
Subject: Re: Problem! Inaccessible substack
To: erik at erikhansen.org, How to use Revolution

Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Yes, check the history of this problem (one of my posts of 2/4). The 
Application Browser didn't even "see" that there was a substack there.

- Jerry

On Feb 5, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:

>
> --- Jerry Balzano 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to Richard, Chipp, and Alex for their
>> responses to my plea for
>> assistance.
>>
>> It turned out that Richard's suggested script
>> (below) fixed the problem
>> just fine — what a life saver!
>
> just curious, did you use
> the "Application Browser"?
>
> Erik Hansen
>
> =====
> erik at erikhansen.org http://www.erikhansen.org
>
>
> 
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:43:36 -0600
From: "J. Landman Gay" 
Subject: Re: What Is Triggering The Menu?
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <4207FD28.4030403 at hyperactivesw.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

On 2/7/05 5:06 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> On OSX, I set up a menu with 1, 2 and 3 as command keys for one of the menu
> buttons. When pressing the keys on the keyboard, the menu flashes as if
> triggered, but no menuPick message is generated and the menu does nothing.
> If I change the command keys to letters, for example, the menuPick message
> is sent and the menu operates as expected. How can I use numbers as command
> key equivalents for menu options?

The IDE traps for these and uses them to navigate around the stack. 
Could it be that the IDE is intercepting your menu commands? If your 
stack is frontmost and its menubar is showing, then that shouldn't 
happen of course.

-- 
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:46:12 -1000
From: Sivakatirswami 
Subject: Re: CGI access to PostGreSQL
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <9dfa495bce6bc70b3b4405b45b35baf6 at hindu.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

Aloha, Jan:

Linux box running Red Hat (not sure which version... is that critical?)

version() returns

2.6

Thanks
Sivakatirswami



Jan wrote:

> What platform is the CGI-engine running on, and which
> version of the CGI-engine is it ? You may need to copy
> the revdb library and assorted drivers to the
> /usr/local/bin directory.
>
> Jan Schenkel.

> --- Sivakatirswami wrote:
>> We have a POSTGreSQL dBase running on a linux box
>>
>> [snip] #!/usr/local/bin/revolution
>>
>> on startup
>>
>> put
>>
> revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","himalayanacademy.com","cybertalks","htoda 
> y
>>
>> ","--real password goes here--") into pConnectionID
>> [snip]
>>
>> Running this from terminal returns these errors
>>
>> ./blurb.rev
>> /usr/local/bin/revolution: Script parsing error at
>> line 13, column 1
>> /usr/local/bin/revolution: Can't load stack or
>> script ./blurb.rev
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 02:53:01 +0000
From: Alex Tweedly 
Subject: Re: Arrays
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <4208298D.3010504 at tweedly.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ben Fisher wrote:

>I'm working on image processing. Let's say I wanted to lighten every shade in the image by 2. The way I do this now is by getting the chartonum of each char in the imagedata (except for every fourth char which is always 0), adding 2, getting the numtochar, and putting this after a variable. Then I set the imagedata of the image to that variable. It works great, but it's a little slow. Too slow for a smooth animation which is what I'm trying to accomplish.
>
>Is there a way to directly add something to the imagedata in binary? For example, adding 2 to all the red in an image in one step rather than going through all the data manually. Or is converting binary>decimal>binary necessary?
>
Frank's suggestion of blendLevel (with perhaps a transparent and/or 
primary-coloured overlay) is probably your best hope for a quick solution.

Part of the solution SHOULD be binaryEncode/binaryDecode - but 
unfortunately they are currently limited in what they can do (without 
any obvious reason why they need to be). I'm planning to submit an 
enhancement request in this area - and thought I'd run a draft by the 
list to see if there are any suggestions.

Enhancement suggestion for binaryEncode/binaryDecode

1. Provide explicit "big-endian" and "little-endian" integer codes.
binaryEncode/Decode provide codes for host order ('s', 'S', 'i', 'I') 
and network-order ('n', 'N'). However, some file formats (notably EXIF 
metadata in JPG and other photo formats) specify the byte-order as 
big-endian or little-endian, so can only be decoded by building in 
knowledge of the endian-ness of the host (and in the case of big-endian 
hosts such as PPC, there is no way to do a little-endian integer 
(en)decode).

2. Bulk conversion.
binaryDecode could provide a mechanism to easily convert a block of 

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