[ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs

MisterX b.xavier at internet.lu
Sat Dec 17 05:18:47 EST 2005


Scott,

I wouldn't dare comparing the environments... Both have their purpose and
place... They are different products despite being the same...

I think that to use inline ASM in rev you need to do so in a c compiler and 
wrappit up in an external ;) 

cheers
Xavier

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kane [mailto:scott at proherp.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, 17 December, 2005 11:00
> To: x at monsieurx.com; 'How to use Revolution'
> Subject: RE: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs
> 
> Hi Xavier,
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a "Delphi vs. Rev" argument.
> <g>.
> There are things that Rev can do that Delphi can't.  Multiple 
> platform for starters.  I tried RealBasic in the process of 
> evaluating the multi-platform universe and found it to be 
> absolutely terrible.  In terms of stability Rev is the 
> closest thing I can get, in terms of stability and 
> flexibility and I love using it now - after quite a learning 
> curve (which I am still undertaking).  Sure there are things 
> Delphi can do that Rev can't .  Inline ASM for starters, but 
> I don't use that very often anyway.  One thing Delphi can do 
> is write data to the executable.  But then Rev has the magic 
> of external stacks so it's not really a needed feature.  I've 
> always believed in choosing the right tool for the job.
> I can see me writing some applications for all three 
> platforms in Rev in time to come.  Rev needs more people like 
> you developing cool objects and libraries, it promises to be 
> an exciting time for me!  :-)
> 
> Scott
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com
> > [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of MisterX
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2005 8:22 PM
> > To: 'How to use Revolution'
> > Subject: RE: [ANN] Renumbering Images with new IDs
> > 
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > very cool indeed! I know how good Delphi is because 
> FLStudio uses that 
> > environment to make FruityLoops which is IMOHO the runtime 
> revolution 
> > of music making. ;)
> > 
> > HyperCard was the first CMS I used for notes taking in 
> college. Since 
> > then it has grown to do enterprise storage administration and NT AD 
> > domain user and share management and lots more at home in my home 
> > software studio ;)...
> > 
> > Same functions or handlers, different problems... im quite 
> confident 
> > of my object model because it has worked so well so far... 
> it's a pity 
> > few have managed to get into it - if any did... (I know, I need to 
> > document stuff and all this... but being alone and amidst 
> the furious 
> > evolution I do in TAOO, documentation doesn't help much at this 
> > stage... I work on it bit by bit
> > though...)
> > 
> > What can't rev do? that's open to the user of course... im the user 
> > and I respect other's work like delphi, ms office and OS, 
> OSX and all 
> > mac things since 1984. I also am awed at linux and how it 
> too grew out 
> > of features users wanted...
> > 
> > In rev, im the architect, the designer, the programmer the 
> tester and 
> > the user. What I like about it is that I can wipe new 
> features in the 
> > middle of the workflow and make all of my stacks more powerful each 
> > time. Is this possible in delphi? Real time?
> > 
> > Also I don't like pascal programming which delphi is using... 
> > my fault but any feature I see in delphi I could replicate 
> in rev in 
> > minutes or a few hours depending. Then it's copy paste or automatic 
> > updates (almost there) across any stack I use...
> > im not sure delphi would follow at this stage... real time... 
> > probably can though ;)
> > 
> > Thousands of objects? eh? 
> > 
> > I wont compare a single programmer's work to a thousands'... 
> > It may be unfair to them ;) But that's how big TAOO is... 
> And im still 
> > 10% of where I want to be conceptually compared to today's scripted 
> > situation. I'd say my biggest problem is finding powerusers or 
> > scripters that want to tap the challenge and get it going... Im no 
> > Linus and definitely not well funded at all and do this in my spare 
> > time mostly but I persist I'm on the right object model from the 
> > beginning because so far I enjoy the benefits developping or using 
> > rev... It may not be OOP but it's not far phylosophically or on the 
> > context-logic...
> > 
> > And im only too aware how one object model may not fit the 
> workflow of 
> > another object model -
> > 
> > We all choose our IDEs, the features we need we add to it right? 
> > That's the way it works so far for the past 15 years... about a new 
> > feature every week on average... this has added up so far...
> > 
> > If I had time to discover and learn delphi I might do the 
> same thing, 
> > at this point, though it's faster for me to wipe the delphi 
> feature in 
> > rev when needed - and I don't look at delphi at all because I base 
> > these new features on actual needs... In the end I have all the 
> > features I've programmed in since 15 years and I can enhance any 
> > myself any time, use it across all my stacks and go faster each 
> > time...
> > 
> > Just to add fuel to the fire, Im working on a new DB model which I 
> > call NodeDB - im not too happy in sql and why not make 
> something even 
> > more xtalk like, ahem practical for Rev!
> > Anything to make rev do my workflow faster - hopefully it's 
> compatible 
> > with other users ;)
> 
> 
> 




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