Unicode problem

Thu Apr 28 20:10:32 EDT 2005

Aloha, Ton:

Could you send me your stack off list? I do a *lot* of work getting 
text in and out of InDesign, every day, every week. I'm interested in 
seeing how this works.

You said: "InDesign uses OpenType or double-byte fonts. These are 
unicode fonts."

Tell us more!  :-) where can you get info on IDCS internal coding... 
I'm especially interested in controlling the encoding of exported XML 
files which would them be programatically worked over in Revolution or 
BBedit and then reloaded into InDesign. In particular, to find a way to 
have everything move through in the same encoding spec UTF-8 or 
UTF-16.. both of these give  troubles in one context or another and I 
haven't quite figured out what is going on... and I don't see a place 
in IDCS to set the encoding format for XML export.

and your S & R stack could be very useful here. Are you tying in with 
AppleScript?

And (one more...) is the Revolution UnicodeText in UTF-8 or UTF-16... 
or is this not even a valid question? Typical scenarios here would be: 
export XML from InDesign, run through some program in Revolution, save 
as a text file, open in BBEdit manually fix things, save, use for the 
web or  import with tags mapped to styles back into InDesign... at this 
point, I usually hit a wall at one transformation point or 
another...characters are all "messed up" and I don't know how to get 
back to what was in InDesign in the first place...

Aside: Do you know if Adobe is using some unicode code points from the 
private block for white space?

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On Apr 20, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote:

> Sometimes life can be so simple...
>
> I tried
> 	set the htmlText of line 7 of field "Target" to field "Source"
> and
> 	set the unicodeText of line 7 of field "Target" to field "Source"
>
>  but just forgot to add the last part: the htmlText of field "Source"
>
> Using the htmlText for both fields works like a charm!
>
>
> Thanks a lot!!!!
>
>
> Ton Kuypers
> Digital Media Partners bvba
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>
> On 20-apr-05, at 16:55, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
>
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>> Did you try using the htmlText of that line rather than just the 
>> plaintext of the line?  In other words, something like this:
>>
>> set the htmlText of line 7 of field "Target" to the htmlText of field 
>> "Source"
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote:
>>
>>> I've created a search & replace application to be used from within 
>>> Adobe Indesign and it works perfectly:
>>> A list with search words, a second list with replace words, some 
>>> options and Indesign has got a supercharged S&R function with whole 
>>> lists of words replaced by one click on a button.
>>> To add words to the list, one can enter it in a "Search" textfield, 
>>> the second part in the "replace" textfield. An add button adds it to 
>>> the list.
>>>
>>> But...
>>>
>>> InDesign uses OpenType or double-byte fonts. These are unicode fonts.
>>> When copying a word from a page in InDesign the clipboard contains 
>>> te text with the special characters, but they are mixed (unicode and 
>>> regular).
>>>
>>> Problem:
>>> - Paste in the entry field shows the correct text, moving it up to 
>>> the list doesn't.
>>> Solution:
>>> - Loop through the characters in the entry field and set the unicode 
>>> text or the regular text of the correct line in the list.
>>> Question:
>>> - Is there a better way to do this?
>>>
>>> Problem 2:
>>> I know what number the last line of the list is, so I put this 
>>> number + 1 into a var. Each new line will be entered into line 
>>> varName.
>>> - When the last line of the list is a unicode text, the next line is 
>>> entered on the same line, it seams that the linenumber in the var 
>>> doesn't have any effect anymore.
>>> I've tried to add a CR after that line, but no luck :-(
>>>
>>> Anyone any solutions or remarks?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ton Kuypers
>>> Digital Media Partners bvba
>>> Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530
>>> Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04
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>>>
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>> Frank D. Engel, Jr.  <fde101 at fjrhome.net>
>>
>> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
>> $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
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>> Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
>> everlasting life.
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