ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES

[MisterX]

Peter,

I've mentioned a million times and as usual future complains dont seem to be
an issue ;) The script editor, although rather simple, is not so bad once
you get used to avoiding its traps. But it's much better than it previously
was...

I made a much superior editor to the old MetaCard editor years ago and no
one really helped or motivated me to make it more competent and runrev 2.5
solved the majority of its pains. 

But wait a few and I'll release bliss to your scripting senses (debugging
features will not be ready yet though).

Chipp, Im glad to hear that there is one more editor coming! Competition is
healthy and sign of a good market ;)

cheers
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com/runrev

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com 
> [mailto:use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Armstrong
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 06:20
> To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
> Subject: ARE YOU SERIOUS REV TEAM? MAJOR SCRIPT EDITOR ISSUES
> 
> Hello, I'm new to Revolution (Rev 2.5.1: Mac OSX 10.3.8).  
> After a few associates mentioned Rev I thought I'd spend a 
> week or so using the software, looking to migrate a few of 
> our projects and team to Rev.
> 
> THE SCRIPT EDITOR IS A JOKE AND HAS SERIOUS ISSUES!!
> 
> How can you expect any programmer to take your product 
> seriously when the <b>sacred</b> script editor has SO MANY BUGS!!
> 
> I became wary of it when small niggly things went wrong, then 
> I LOST a whole bunch of code!  Here's just the top 10 issues 
> I found, most on the 2nd day:
> 
> ----------------------------
> 
> 01 Going to single handler view, closing the script then 
> opening again, then back to multi-handler view lost ALL MY 
> STACK SCRIPT.  EMPTY.  THEN OTHER SCRIPTS IN THE STACK 
> APPEARED TO BE EMPTY TOO!  ALL EMPTY!?
> 
> 02 Going to 'single handler' view doesn't parse the last 
> handler, handler name shows but content appears empty.
> 
> 03 Syntax coloring doesn't work properly (not everything is 
> parsed correctly) and ends up looking like a handful of 
> colored balloons... I needed to customize colors to make any 
> sense of this.
> 
> 04 On some occasions (when a modal dialog is open, an error 
> occurs?) dialog after dialog repeatedly appears warning that 
> 'can't edit while executing'.  Seemed to appear three times?
> 
> 05 Pre-emptive typing seems to only parse some of the keyword 
> tokens?  I can't work out what is parsed and what is not: 
> functions, constants...?  For example 'openstack' is parsed, 
> 'itemDel' isn't?  (Actually it did parse once, then it didn't 
> the second time?) Don't know.
> 
> 06 On another occasion all my script formatting (bold
> etc) was lost. Something happened, I opened and all my 
> careful formatting was GONE.
> 
> 07 Windows all over the place.  I found I was constantly 
> opening up the variable watcher, shuffling windows around 
> (I'm on a 22 inch monitor), resizing, closing opening trying 
> to see what is going on. 
> Surely during development these could be organized properly, 
> perhaps with variable watcher attached to the side or bottom 
> of the script window with and expander triangle?  I found I 
> had to constantly expand the width of this to see things properly.
> 
> 08 Lots of incorrect errors.  I got 'Can't find Handler' when 
> in fact it was an error in the script of the stack handler!!  
> What sort of message is that!? 
> Wasted time trying to work out why the message wasnt being 
> passed down the message path.
> 
> 09 I found sending more than one parameter in a function call 
> from the message box only accepted the first parameter.  Fine 
> if sent from a button but no good if sent from message box. 
> 2nd, 3rd etc parameters are ignored.
> 
> 10 Escape doesn't close the window, it puts some weird symbol 
> in the script window. The 'double-enter' to accept and save a 
> script is kinda weird, why can't you stick to a more 
> conforming 'save and close' system?
> 
> ----------------------------
> 
> After enjoying your software my confidence rating dropped to ZERO.
> 
> Get it together, these glaring issues make your product look 
> like a beta or late alpha.  I don't mind issues in other 
> areas but the SCRIPT EDITOR IS SACRED!
> 
> Doesn't anyone else notice these things?  How long has Rev 
> been around?  How can I write code if I can't SAFELY edit 
> without worrying about code loss?
> 
> I know some will brand me as a 'disgruntled programmer', 
> however I'm just so used to a clean SAFE scripting 
> environment that Rev made me feel VERY UNSURE of the environment.
> 
> Id love to switch our team over  an excellent and extensive 
> set of script functions and commands -- however I dont trust 
> Rev now.  
> 
> Perhaps there is there a way I can edit in BBedit and then 
> save back to Rev??? At least Id know that the script is 
> safe, even if my code has bugs.
> 
> On the up side: once out of the nightmare script editor/ 
> debugger, code and samples all seemed to execute well.  
> Excellent speed.  
> 
> I see that you keep adding and adding more to Rev, why not 
> SUBTRACT things that dont work and get the others working 
> properly. For example, tables also lost data, I basically 
> gave up on the Table Object and cRevTable etc.
> 
> Good luck, Ill keep looking out for script editor fixes and 
> improvements.  In the meantime, if any serious programmers 
> can tell me how to use BBedit with Rev then Id much 
> appreciate it.  Seems the IDE is a very leaky tank but the 
> engine is pretty stable. 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Peter Armstrong
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