What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

Mark Talluto userev at canelasoftware.com
Fri Sep 3 11:57:41 EDT 2004

On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Troy Rollins wrote:

> Kevin,
> With all due respect, this is an EXTREMELY frustrating position you 
> are taking. Discussion of bugs is not only common on developer lists, 
> it is expected. While no one expects the development team to pick up 
> on bugs from discussions here, often times it is the end-user 
> introducing some issue, or the list members know a workaround, or 
> simply prefer to know about such issues before they encounter them. 
> The RunRev stance of trying to keep such discussions out of this list 
> will also keep professional developers out of this list, since we are 
> quite accustomed to open discussion of any usage issues regarding the 
> tools we work with. Limiting such discussion, and demanding that 
> Bugzilla be the only point of entry on these things makes it look like 
> you are trying to hide something, and it is also a very low feedback 
> mechanism. It is akin to saying, "if you encounter what you think is a 
> bug, put your development project on the shelf until we determine if 
> you are right or wrong. That could take an indefinite amount of time, 
> during which you are out of luck."
> If the intention of this list is to act like a marketing vehicle where 
> everyone is happy, and there are no apparent bugs in the software, 
> then I think we need another, more reality-based list, aimed at 
> registered users of studio or above which is more open to discussion 
> of bugs, workarounds and solutions to the inevitable issues that arise 
> in professional software development.

I completely agree with the added note:  File it in bugzilla as well as 
bring it to everyones attention.  I too want to know what is crashing 
people's stacks and their temporary workarounds.  But file it so it 
will get truly fixed.

Best regards,
Mark Talluto

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