ANN Props NO2
b.xavier at internet.lu
Tue Jun 8 01:29:43 CDT 2004
> I've a couple of concerns with your new plugin palette.
> 1) It doesn't seem to 'keep current' the property window settings when
> switching from object to object. This is something the RR palettes
> already do by themselves, so it appears you've broken something there.
I noticed that too ;) I did try to call for testers and only had one
person's great help and comments. Im practically resourcesless but I
keep trying! See later, I've fixed the problem, I hope.
> 2) In your documentation it states under Uninstall "Delete me! I dare
> you!" While this is not only unprofessional and unappropriate for a paid
> for program (you are charging for it), it also is *scary* to your users!
You're right of course... I've remove the "bad" stuff...
I'll flagelate tonite ;)
> 3) Because you've password protected your stack, it's difficult to know
> exactly what you're doing. For instance, are you modifying any of the
> IDE code? If indeed you are, I suggest you reconsider, as modifying the
> RR code is *BAD BEHAVIOR* and at the least will create support
> nightmares for the RunRev team. If you're inserting frontscripts, I'd
> also like to know.
I dont dare touch RR code. It is quite complicated! The only mod I did
(so far) is to add menulines to a certain menu that needs it...
As for the frontscript, it only catches the selectedobjectchanged. I just
added a fix to pass this message (thanks for the frontscript mention!).
This may fix problem 1)...
> 4) Both in your documentation and on this website, you continue to slam
> RunRev for their product quality. This certainly doesn't seem a very
> professional approach if your goal is to garner more support for your
> plugin and products. BTW, I make a living using RunRev and don't
> encounter near the problems you suggest.
With this plugin I've encountered SO MANY crashes, you would never believe
it. Without modifying anything, just trying to implement a plugin which is
a feature. They only thing I got working was the startup and the revexample.
I'll just say that there are two crash prone features in RR, the other one
being images in HTMLText.
I've probably slammed the plugins enough on this list I wont do that again.
Do you plugins use the revselectedobjectchanged or the reveditscript?
Try it sometime... Try to port the revpluginexample to another stack or
modify that stack to do your plugin's work... Doesn't take long to see the
> 5) In your documentation you state:
> If this application crashes... crashing and instability behavior is
> completely out of the control of the programmer and rests entirely under
> the responsibility of RunRev development.
> I assume you're kidding! You're asking people to purchase your software,
> yet wish to take no responsibility regarding the quality of it? Wow, I
> wish I could make such a claim to my customers!!! (Please pay me now,
> and report all bugs to RunRev ;-)
Have you seen the Microsoft or RR EULA? Are they responsible? ;)
I've removed the offending text.
> And lastly, your incorrect assumption below:
> > As RR plugins are now futile, you just need to open this stack to
> > make it work!
> is blatantly untrue, and has no place on this list. I've created and
> maintained a slew of cross-platform plugins for RunRev (for free) which
> are used by many here. Just because you've had limited success writing
> professional plugins, doesn't mean it's not possible by others.
Part of that is a joke. Im no borg mind you ;)
I tried futily for hundreds of hours non-stop to make the
revselectedobjectchanged and the revscriptedit plug-in features work.
All I got was crashes, non-working call while the revexample does work
(which is so frustrating to see) No one could explain that, not RR or the
According to RR's support, plug-ins are not a priority - so be it - makes
wonder why they are still there and why there is no mention of them in the
features list ;).
Nobody has been able to answer my call for help except for Richards
idea which did work!
And since free software doesn't give me enough feedback satisfaction maybe
paying software will. I tried to invoke user's sense of feedback
and hardly got any. So now I'll put my work to the market to see if it
works - hopefully RR will not copy the design and leave me some clients, but
if they do, I wont mind - only if it crashes! ;)
It's all for your benefit IMOHO, im trying to help you develop faster!
As Andy Grove said, complacency is the enemy of productivity
(or something like that he said...)
So 15 euros is fine for you? ;)
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