CGI POST Failure to read Stdin

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Katir, Tuviah,

You are true. It would be great to have this core bug definitivelly 
removed from the engine by the RunRev Team... True, again, that my 
proposal is probably not feeting your needs if you don't own nor manage 
the servers whose are hosting the PHP + Rev's application server 
solution i spoked about in the previous mail.

Le 8 avr. 04, à 19:30, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami a écrit :

> Thanks, Pierre for the full report on this old bug... but the problem 
> with your solution is two fold:
>
> 1) it assumes that the Rev developer has PHP skills (which I do not)  
> even though we could simply copy your example... we would not know 
> what we were doing... and many new users of xTalk CGI may only be 
> fluent in xTalk and no other languages.

I did'nt understand that the end-user will have to put hands inside the 
engine ;)
>
> 2) it assumes that one has admin rights to set up Revolution or 
> Metacard on the server as a long running process. But, if one is 
> hosting his site on a virtual host web server, about the most you can 
> do is get approval to put the Revolution engine in your CGI-BIN... I 
> don't know if it would be possible to then "boot" it as a long running 
> process... I don't think so.

True...
>
> For now, our usage is a low enough hit rate (one POST every day or two 
> at the most!)  to live with a pure xTalk solution. but, I'll be 
> expanding the number of users up ward and we will watch carefully for 
> failures. Of course this can't possibly reflect a "200 hits per second 
> context."
>
> We really should solve this. Some people will simply through the whole 
> idea out of using Revolution to build an enterprise solution, just 
> because of this one bug.

Please, send a copy to Tuviah... I do the same, for my own.

Kind Regards, Pierre
>
> Best to all from Hawaii.
>
> Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
> Himalayan Academy Publications
> at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
> katir at hindu.org
>
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>
> On Apr 8, 2004, at 3:15 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:
>
>> At 3:01 pm +0200 8/4/04, Pierre Sahores wrote:
>>
>>> I experimented this,a  long time ago... At least with the 2.3.2 and
>>> above issues of the engine, MC/Rev is failing 1 time peer 20 periods 
>>> in
>>> handling "POST" requests in CGI mode.
>>>
>>> It's a sad reproductible bug we spoken about with Scott Raney, a long
>>> time ago, on and off-list, without getting any way to solve
>>> definitivelly the problem.
>>
>> Have you tested this recently, Pierre? I've been using the 2.5 engine 
>> extensively on Windows (with IIS) and on OS X (with Apache) for CGI 
>> and haven't encountered any problems with POST. (As long as you're 
>> careful about reading in the data from stdin.) In fact, I've found it 
>> remarkably stable.
>>
>> The only hitch I've found is with IIS on Windows, where it's a good 
>> idea to put a short wait (20 milliseconds) before the "end startup" 
>> line in the script (this is not just for POST but GET as well).
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear of other people's experience.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave

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