Hello from a Filemaker renegade

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Tue Apr 6 04:22:24 EDT 2004


Norman,


>1. The RR v RB comparison article is way out of date but suggests RB
>may be the best choice for heavy db work. Is this so?

I've done some really heavy db work with HC, FMP, php sql. RR is up to
par... Naturally, it's not FMP but given the events that FMP doesn't have
it should be far more potent a solution... Web serving might be a bit
more involved but not necessary as complicated as FMP. No java 
req.

>2. I don't see much written on building front-ends to SQL in RR. Are
>they out there? Are there any tutorials on this? Is there a connection
>tutorial?

I think making a stack browser should be pretty easy. I haven't tried but
the connection is self explanatory. Others have more experience than me
here.

>3. Are there functions, plug-ins, tool-sets to handle complex
>relationships, entity diagrams, data validation?

Validation is a piece of cake in RR. plug-ins are somewhat obscure and
can or not work - RR technical problem. Relationships are usually coded
but making a GUI for it should be easy. RR's difference with FMP is that
the data model is built directly in the interface compared to a separate 
GUI as in FM but nothing is stopping you from adopting the same model 
(eg same data, different views)... 

>4. Icing on the cake? Has anyone already handled converting and
>documented it?

I've converted parts of FMP databases to RR on numerous occasions
but never documented it. A basic export, import should do...

hope it helps.

On 06.04.2004 10:11:36 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've just joined your list. I was one of those people hoping for great
>things from Filemaker 7. We got them - but it got slower. My main work
>is on a solution that represents data graphically. Already too slow so
>I am looking for alternatives.
>
>Tried Servoy a bit. Looks promising but still stuck with runtime
>payments.
>Good points: mimics FM, sets up an SQL db and the connection, a
>database person starts higher up the learning curve. I like the look of
>Javascript. Got a full response from support team on my problems.
>Bad points: Java problems under OS X. Still stuck with runtime
>payments. Didn't get drawn into coding.
>
>Downloaded RR and worked through the tutorial.
>Good points: Interface worked well. Free version lets me play as long
>as I like.
>Not so good (for me): I like concise languages. If they are verbose
>then they should need no, or little, commenting. The examples have so
>many comments I can't follow the logic. I have already experienced
>Applescript and find that its 'Englishness' soon descends into the
>arcane and opaque.
>
>Downloaded RealBasic, worked through the tutorial.
>Good points: Interface prettier. Found myself drawn into coding and
>experimenting almost immediately (used to love Delphi and would be
>there now if it ran on OS X). Lot's of database functions.
>Not so good: Still Carbon. Can't find aid for setting up SQL
>connections. Only get 10 days to play before committing.
>
>
>So, why am I here? First, a hunch. It seems like RR has something going
>for it. Second, I browsed the archives of this list and liked what I
>saw.
>
>If you could take the time to consider my questions it might have more
>influence than on just me. A lot of FM developers are hovering.
>
>Here are some questions:
>
>1. The RR v RB comparison article is way out of date but suggests RB
>may be the best choice for heavy db work. Is this so?
>
>2. I don't see much written on building front-ends to SQL in RR. Are
>they out there? Are there any tutorials on this? Is there a connection
>tutorial?
>
>3. Are there functions, plug-ins, tool-sets to handle complex
>relationships, entity diagrams, data validation?
>
>4. Icing on the cake? Has anyone already handled converting and
>documented it?
>
>
>Thank you for attention and for a lively, open forum,
>
>Norman Winn
>
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