More about PNG

Thomas J McGrath III 3mcgrath at adelphia.net
Mon Nov 3 08:53:23 EST 2003


Sorry, Ken,

If you want the PNG file to act like the original JPG files when using 
the REV inks then we need to have a white background layer in the png 
file. Open it in PS you have a layer with no background(we deleted it 
before). if you cut out a box you will see checkerboard.

If you want it to work as a png and with inks in Rev then add a new 
layer under this one with all white in it. save it as png and import 
into REV and the png will act just like the jpg when using the inks. As 
far as the blend goes I don't see any real difference using the REV 
blend plus it is live in REV and scriptable so use REV instead.

Hope this helps

Tom

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

> Ken,
>
> All of that is as should be expected. changing the opacity is what is 
> letting the colors fade between what is behind it.
> I tried a number of effects and imports and they all acted correctly.
>
> So what did you want to happen? Try the same image at 100 opacity and 
> import it then set the ink to blend it will or should be close to what 
> it looked like when in PS 50%.
>
> If you need a png  to be translucent then blend it in REV. If you need 
> it to have an invisible cut out then do it in PS. if you need special 
> inks I think that png might not be the way to go.
>
> The real problem I think  is that most of the inks seem to work a 
> little different than I remember in SC. What gives?
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 06:02 AM, Ken Norris wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom.
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 02:01:56 -0500
>>> From: Thomas J McGrath III <3mcgrath at adelphia.net>
>>> Subject: Re: More about PNG
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> I haven't had time to really dig deep but I would not apply any inks 
>>> to
>>> the image. I just brought a png file that was made in PS with no
>>> background(checkerboard) into REV put it over a bunch of text and
>>> images and perfect translucency.
>>>
>>> Is that what you wanted? if not please explain.
>>>
>>> If it is, send me the image and I will see. I do have a pretty heavy
>>> background in image manipulation.
>> -----------
>> Try this in a stack (on a Mac):
>>
>> 1) Make a field with med-large black letters. Say 24 pt. Chicago.
>>
>> 2) Import a shaded image (not too dark)...anything EXCEPT PNG or GIF. 
>> JPEG
>> is fine.
>>
>> 3) Inspector for the graphic, in inks properties, on the Mac side 
>> (below the
>> All Platform stuff), turn it into adMin.
>>
>> 4) Run it over the text. See? It doesn't change much. You can read 
>> the text
>> right through it, totally black, but its colors are good (on a white 
>> field).
>>
>> 5) Take the same image to PS and make a translucent image out of it 
>> (no
>> background),  say 50% opacity (is there another way?), Save for Web, 
>> 24 bit
>> PNG.
>>
>> 6) Import that to the same stack, and try it out.
>>
>> See, the colors are washed out from degrading the opacity, and it 
>> greys out
>> the text under it.
>>
>> What say ye?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Ken N.
>>
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>
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