Revolution and Internet Applications

[Chipp Walters]

Dan,

I'm using RR to build some rather nifty Internet apps currently. I just
finished an Uploader wizard builder which works with our Hemingway Content
Management System. I've also built some Internet libraries which are helpful
in uploading files to our server, as well as processing asynchronously
multiple requests.

There's a plugin called "HTML builder" at
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Plugins.htm which if you put in
the plugins folder, can let you create HTML and play with the different
tags. If you Alt-click on the blue button, it will topLevel it so you can
better play around.

Also, in the downloads section, there are a number of interesting utilities,
including XML TreeView control which works great with servers, the
altSAFileUp Library which handles standard file upload (RFC1867) protocols
and altURL Library which is easy to view and understand/modify for your
purposes.

I find using a RR client coupled with an ASP based back-end works well -- I
can create web apps very quickly.

It would be nice if we had an Open Source internet utility project. I can
see a need for some better parsers, along with more internet savy controls.

my two cents,

Chipp Walters, Altuit,inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-revolution-admin at lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-admin at lists.runrev.com]On Behalf Of Dan Shafer
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:10 AM
> To: use-revolution at lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Revolution and Internet Applications
>
>
> The applications I envision building over the next year or two are
> all Internet and Web-based applications. They provide non-browser
> approaches to dealing with information stored in Web pages and on
> Internet sites in databases and other formats. So the Internet
> capabilities of my tool set are crucial.
>
> As I probe Revolution's documentation and build small test stacks, I
> seem to be finding that this particular aspect of Revolution is not
> (yet) well-developed.
>
> For example, not only is the htmlText property very weak in terms of
> the tag support it offers, it appears to me that it doesn't support
> even those limited tags it claims to. Specifically, the <a></a> tag
> set appears to be unsupported, at least under OS X. Clicking on text
> that is connected to a link in the original Web page does not
> generate an automatic link to the new page. I presume this could be
> scripted but it's difficult to see how: (a) this could be a
> general-case solution; and (b) one can claim to support a standard
> HTML tag but not its associated behavior.
>
> Similarly, the <image> tag does not seem to work, either. At least
> the image never gets displayed on any of several Web pages I've tried
> it with.
>
> Beyond that, general Internet support seems to be lacking.  Of
> course, there could be more than meets the eye; without a manual,
> it's hard to say. The scripting dictionary is useful, but there's no
> categorization so I can't, e.g., easily find a list of all
> net-related stuff. I keep having to follow "see also" links that
> sometimes don't go anywhere useful and often don't have links back to
> where I was. Or at least so it seems.
>
> None of this should be seen as an indictment of Revolution, though.
> As a long-time HyperTalker, I'm really excited by what I see here. I
> am hoping to find out that I'm just wrong about this stuff and that
> Revolution can in fact be the development tool I seek. But after a
> few hours of exploration, I'm inclined to think it's not yet ready
> for prime time for the kinds of apps I want to build.
>
> Anyone have a different experience or some insights to share?
> --
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