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From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 5 17:07:04 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 5 17:08:19 2008 Subject: Launch url SOLUTION Message-ID: Oh joy! I found the solution! Thank you Ken and Sarah for the ideas. And THANK YOU Scott Rossi for the final solution! After trying again and failing miserably, I went thru some old posts I had saved regarding this subject. Scott's post is from 2002, and it worked when all else failed. on mouseUp global tUrl # tUrl is the full path of the URL you are trying to launch put "http://www.gypsyware.com" into tUrl put \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "Launcher" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "

" & return & \ "Loading URL. One moment please..." & return & \ "" & return & \ "" & return & \ "" into tCode put pathToSomeFolderYouCanWriteTo into goHtml put "/gypsywareWebpage.html" after goHtml open file goHtml for write write tCode to file goHtml close file goHtml put word 1 of \ queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") into tBrowserPath launch goHtml with tBrowserPath end mouseUp function q pWhat # put quotes around it return quote & pWhat & quote end q -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue May 6 01:35:42 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Tue May 6 01:35:41 2008 Subject: Launch url SOLUTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481FFC3E.20200@fourthworld.com> Glad you at least found a workaround, but did you ever find out why it was needed? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador@FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com Shari wrote: > Oh joy! > > I found the solution! > > Thank you Ken and Sarah for the ideas. And THANK YOU Scott Rossi for > the final solution! > > After trying again and failing miserably, I went thru some old posts I > had saved regarding this subject. > > Scott's post is from 2002, and it worked when all else failed. > > on mouseUp > global tUrl > # tUrl is the full path of the URL you are trying to launch > put "http://www.gypsyware.com" into tUrl > > put \ > "" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "Launcher" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "

" & return & \ > "Loading URL. One moment please..." & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "" & return & \ > "" into tCode > > put pathToSomeFolderYouCanWriteTo into goHtml > put "/gypsywareWebpage.html" after goHtml > > open file goHtml for write > write tCode to file goHtml > close file goHtml > > put word 1 of \ > > queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\http\shell\open\command\") > into tBrowserPath > launch goHtml with tBrowserPath > end mouseUp > > function q pWhat # put quotes around it > return quote & pWhat & quote > end q From shari at gypsyware.com Tue May 6 09:37:35 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Tue May 6 09:37:43 2008 Subject: Launch url SOLUTION In-Reply-To: <481FFC3E.20200@fourthworld.com> References: <481FFC3E.20200@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: >Glad you at least found a workaround, but did you ever find out why >it was needed? > >-- > Richard Gaskin Not a clue. In some of the old posts people had mentioned versions of browsers that were not as compliant, not sure how they explained it but I'll try... When you launch the browser, which is Internet Explorer, the top of the browser window says something like "Internet Explorer provided by Compaq" or something to that effect. In other words, sort of like Compaq added their branding to it. Somewhere in the old posts I got the impression that when you have a weird version like this, sometimes they don't maintain the same compliancy to standard protocols. So I wondered if that could be the case. Rev/MC would actually launch the browser, but the window would come up empty. It would not take you to the URL. I tried it in both Rev and MC straight from the message box, without anything to complicate it, and both did the same thing. So my best guess is that the non-standard browser is cranky. I tried a boatload of different URL handlers, from launch, to shell, and others, but Scott's was the only one that could bully it's way thru. One thing I've heard over and over thru the years, if you see it happen (the anomaly) or if even just one or two people email you with it, you can bet your bottom dollars that there are a lot more people who will encounter it. Never assume that it's limited to one or two people or just you. The silent majority will likely be off to somebody else's software and never bother to tell you why. Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 19 07:54:52 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 19 07:55:20 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! Message-ID: I decided to go back and look at something I had created in Hypercard many moons ago, with the thought of beefing it up and re-releasing it. Right now it is defunct, working only on very old computers. Knowing that Metacard should open Hypercard files, I launched MC 2.9, and it failed. Not only wouldn't it open the Hypercard stack, but it actually quit on me. So I went back to MC 2.8.1. Same thing. Tried 2.7.4. Ditto. Tried MC 2.4.3 (the last version I had before Rev took over MC) and wowie zowie, it opened the stack! Thanking the gods that I actually kept my older versions installed, because if I had not, all those old stacks would be useless. My old trusty MC saved the day! :-) Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From ambassador at fourthworld.com Mon May 19 10:36:35 2008 From: ambassador at fourthworld.com (Richard Gaskin) Date: Mon May 19 10:36:36 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> Shari wrote: > I decided to go back and look at something I had created in Hypercard > many moons ago, with the thought of beefing it up and re-releasing it. > Right now it is defunct, working only on very old computers. > > Knowing that Metacard should open Hypercard files, I launched MC 2.9, > and it failed. Not only wouldn't it open the Hypercard stack, but it > actually quit on me. > > So I went back to MC 2.8.1. Same thing. > > Tried 2.7.4. Ditto. > > Tried MC 2.4.3 (the last version I had before Rev took over MC) and > wowie zowie, it opened the stack! That's verty disturbing, since ostensibly nothing in the HC conversion code has changed in versions since 2.4.3. I would encourage you to send your stack and your test results to RunRev for evaluation. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador@FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com From rjb at robelko.com Mon May 19 10:52:30 2008 From: rjb at robelko.com (Robert Brenstein) Date: Mon May 19 10:58:49 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: On 19/05/08 at 08:36 -0700 Richard Gaskin apparently wrote: >That's verty disturbing, since ostensibly nothing in the HC >conversion code has changed in versions since 2.4.3. > >I would encourage you to send your stack and your test results to >RunRev for evaluation. > >-- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Media Corporation Hasn't RunRev removed the option to convert HC stack some time ago? Robert From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon May 19 11:25:35 2008 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon May 19 11:25:42 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> Message-ID: <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> Robert Brenstein wrote: > On 19/05/08 at 08:36 -0700 Richard Gaskin apparently wrote: >> That's verty disturbing, since ostensibly nothing in the HC conversion >> code has changed in versions since 2.4.3. >> >> I would encourage you to send your stack and your test results to >> RunRev for evaluation. >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Media Corporation > > Hasn't RunRev removed the option to convert HC stack some time ago? No, it's still there in Studio and Enterprise. They did remove it from Media, since that's an entry-level edition with a few features turned off. I'm not sure why Shari couldn't get results in later versions of the engine. I routinely convert HC stacks all the time and have never had a problem, with the exception of one single release of -- I think it was -- 2.7 where Mark forgot to enable the HC conversion feature. It was turned on again in the next point release. Mark has specifically told me that he hasn't touched the HC conversion code at all. It remains exactly as Scott Raney wrote it and he has never changed it. So I suspect something else is going on with these particular stacks. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 19 14:23:52 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 19 14:24:36 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: I have Enterprise. All my versions have been Enterprise including the original Metacard prior to Revolution. I tried a test of MC 2.9 to see if it would open other old Hypercard stacks I had. I did succeed with one, but others failed. I don't know what differentiates the stacks. I know that back then I used some externals in the resource forks. But I think all my old stacks would have had that. >No, it's still there in Studio and Enterprise. They did remove it >from Media, since that's an entry-level edition with a few features >turned off. > >I'm not sure why Shari couldn't get results in later versions of the >engine. I routinely convert HC stacks all the time and have never >had a problem, with the exception of one single release of -- I >think it was -- 2.7 where Mark forgot to enable the HC conversion >feature. It was turned on again in the next point release. > >Mark has specifically told me that he hasn't touched the HC >conversion code at all. It remains exactly as Scott Raney wrote it >and he has never changed it. So I suspect something else is going on >with these particular stacks. -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon May 19 14:30:01 2008 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon May 19 14:30:03 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> Shari wrote: > I have Enterprise. All my versions have been Enterprise including the > original Metacard prior to Revolution. > > I tried a test of MC 2.9 to see if it would open other old Hypercard > stacks I had. I did succeed with one, but others failed. I don't know > what differentiates the stacks. I know that back then I used some > externals in the resource forks. But I think all my old stacks would > have had that. I don't think externals would matter, since those are completely ignored and are never brought into Rev/MC. When you say the import doesn't work, what exactly happens? Do you get an error message? Or could the stack just be invisible? I'd be happy to try one if you want to send me a copy of a stack that fails. I've never had one that wouldn't come over. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 19 16:16:02 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 19 16:16:32 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: >I don't think externals would matter, since those are completely >ignored and are never brought into Rev/MC. When you say the import >doesn't work, what exactly happens? Do you get an error message? Or >could the stack just be invisible? > >I'd be happy to try one if you want to send me a copy of a stack >that fails. I've never had one that wouldn't come over. Okay, Jacques, I will email it to you? Will you have difficulty receiving an attachment? Or should I upload it somewhere for you to download? The stack is not seen as a stack file, so I choose the All Files option. I get no scripting error message from Metacard. It simply quits, and I get the Unexpectedly Quit error. Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon May 19 16:48:44 2008 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon May 19 16:48:49 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <4831F5BC.1000805@hyperactivesw.com> Shari wrote: >> I don't think externals would matter, since those are completely >> ignored and are never brought into Rev/MC. When you say the import >> doesn't work, what exactly happens? Do you get an error message? Or >> could the stack just be invisible? >> >> I'd be happy to try one if you want to send me a copy of a stack that >> fails. I've never had one that wouldn't come over. > > Okay, Jacques, I will email it to you? Will you have difficulty > receiving an attachment? Or should I upload it somewhere for you to > download? > > The stack is not seen as a stack file, so I choose the All Files > option. I get no scripting error message from Metacard. It simply > quits, and I get the Unexpectedly Quit error. Interesting. I'll take a look. Email is fine if the stack is under 1-2 megs or so; anything larger tends to clog up my inbox. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 19 17:01:26 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 19 17:01:55 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: <4831F5BC.1000805@hyperactivesw.com> References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> <4831F5BC.1000805@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: Jacques, I just sent it to you. As I said, I did finally get into it with my trusty old MC 2.4.3 so I am able to access it. Once 2.4.3 opened it I could save it in a format that the newer versions would handle. Just a bit of a puzzle why I had to go back that far to get in, when everybody is saying that the code hasn't ever changed. Somewhere something must have. Shari >Interesting. I'll take a look. Email is fine if the stack is under >1-2 megs or so; anything larger tends to clog up my inbox. -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com From jacque at hyperactivesw.com Mon May 19 18:09:36 2008 From: jacque at hyperactivesw.com (J. Landman Gay) Date: Mon May 19 18:09:39 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> <4831F5BC.1000805@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: <483208B0.8030404@hyperactivesw.com> Shari wrote: > Jacques, > > I just sent it to you. > > As I said, I did finally get into it with my trusty old MC 2.4.3 so I am > able to access it. Once 2.4.3 opened it I could save it in a format > that the newer versions would handle. > > Just a bit of a puzzle why I had to go back that far to get in, when > everybody is saying that the code hasn't ever changed. > > Somewhere something must have. It opens if I remove all the snd resources. While the HC import itself hasn't changed, audio playback has. I'm guessing some of the snd resources are pretty old and are crashing the newer engine. A sudden quit like that usually means there's a bad resource somewhere. I'd be curious to know if all the sounds play all right in Rev 2.9 after you got the stack to open with MC 2.4.3. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com From shari at gypsyware.com Mon May 19 19:42:52 2008 From: shari at gypsyware.com (Shari) Date: Mon May 19 19:43:22 2008 Subject: Thank you Metacard 2.4.3! In-Reply-To: <483208B0.8030404@hyperactivesw.com> References: <48319E83.90108@fourthworld.com> <4831A9FF.9070701@hyperactivesw.com> <4831D539.7060505@hyperactivesw.com> <4831F5BC.1000805@hyperactivesw.com> <483208B0.8030404@hyperactivesw.com> Message-ID: >It opens if I remove all the snd resources. While the HC import >itself hasn't changed, audio playback has. I'm guessing some of the >snd resources are pretty old and are crashing the newer engine. > >A sudden quit like that usually means there's a bad resource >somewhere. I'd be curious to know if all the sounds play all right >in Rev 2.9 after you got the stack to open with MC 2.4.3. I wouldn't leave them in the resource fork. I don't do single platform stacks since leaving Hypercard. I create one stack for all platforms, so I make sure they make all the kitties happy :-) Funny thing, when I first switched away from Hypercard eons ago I hated leaving behind the resource fork. Now I cannot imagine still using it. I love Metacard's way of embedding sounds, graphics, and other stacks. Shari -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com