[Metacard] Digest metacard.v004.n527
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001 - Alex Shaw <A.Shaw at mailbox - andu -> http proxy username & password?
002 - diskot123 at juno.com - Re: Print Field Text
003 - Charles Buchwald <charles - QT from the 'Net?
004 - Signe Marie Sanne <signe. - Re: Recording sound
005 - "Vinciane BAUDOUX" <vinci - Re: Printing Field Text
006 - andu <undo at cloud9.net> - Re: andu -> http proxy username & password?
007 - fuegox at mac.com - Re: QT from the 'Net?
008 - sadhu at castandcrew.com (Sa - Re: Using a stack as a small data base
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From: Alex Shaw <A.Shaw at mailbox.gu.edu.au>
Subject: andu -> http proxy username & password?
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:44:31 +1000
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Hi Andu,
I've a machine behind a firewall which consists of a http proxy server
which requires authentication. I posted this question previously .. back it
the mc2.3.2 days. Is a solution available with 2.4? And how does it work?
regards
alex
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From: diskot123 at juno.com
Subject: Re: Print Field Text
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:53:19 -0500
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The scripts used in the print field stack were designed to be
reusable..and in fact are used in the MetaCard script editor. To use you
can just copy the print field stack into your project, or if you feel
like it copy the scripts in stack "print field" into your stack. You can
use the print field stack like so:
start using stack "Print Field"
printfield [header],[text to print],[footer],[sourcefieldid]
stop using stack "Print Field"
Any expression surrounded by <% is evaluated by MetaCard.
For example if I wanted to print the text of field 1,
a) with a header displaying the document name on the topleft of the page
and the time on the topright of the page, I would type:
put "My Document"&tab&tab&"<%the time%>" into theader -- tabs determine
alignment in header and footer [left]<tab>[center]<tab>[right]
b) and a footer displaying the date in the center and the pagenumber on
the topright of the page I would type:
put tab&"<%the date%>"&tab&"<%pagenumber%>" into tfooter
c) and of course, print the text of my field..but preserve all the text
styles.
put the htmltext of field "myfield" into ttext -- use htmltext to
preserve all the styles when printing
now to put it all together...
start using stack "Print Field"
printfield theader,ttext,tfooter
sourcefieldid is optional and is useful when you wish to print a field
using the textstyle, textsize of a field (useful is the text in a field
does not contain multiple styles).
For example if I wished to print my field(using the textsize/style of the
field)..with a simple footer (at the center of the page) displaying the
pagenumber I would type
start using stack "print field"
printfield "",field "myfield",tab&"<%pagenumber%">,the long id of field
"myfield"
stop using stack "print field"
To change the margins check out the printmargins property.
Hope this takes all the mystery out of the print field stack!
PS. Those keeping up with the latest 2.4 features, will probably note
that PFSetText (which parses <%expression%> in text) can be replaced with
the new merge command.
Tuviah
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From: Charles Buchwald <charles at saltspring.com>
Subject: QT from the 'Net?
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:16:24 -0800
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I saw this in the ReadMe:
> The player object now will accept URLs in its fileName property, which
> will cause QuickTime's internal networking routines to download and
> play the file. This also allows playback of streaming video.
Can't seem to get it to work. I can get the same movie to play when it's
local, but not from a server. Caching it doesn't help.
MacOS 9.2, QuickTime 5.0.2, MC 2.4.1
Any suggestions?
--
Charles Buchwald
Etraffic Solutions
1.866.658.8238
charles at etrafficsolutions.com
www.etrafficsolutions.com
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From: Signe Marie Sanne <signe.sanne at roman.uib.no>
Subject: Re: Recording sound
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:21:47 +0100
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References: <200111201644.LAA08843 at www.runrev.com>
In-Reply-To: <200111201644.LAA08843 at www.runrev.com>
>On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:
>
>>Hello to all,
>>
>>Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 -
>>I have struggled with Tuvias stack "RecordSound" from which I have taken:
>>
>> record sound lydfil with dialog
>> put the seconds into nsecs
>> repeat while recording is true
>> wait for 0.20 seconds with messages
>> set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness()
>> end repeat
>> put "recorded for "&&the seconds - nsecs&&"seconds"
>>
>>On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either
>>"ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with
>>22.050 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as
>>"mysound.mov") record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to
>>record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and
>2.4.1? While I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with
>great success on the Mac. You should download the latest version of
>2.4.1 while you are at it.
Sorry, just a typo, I'm using the very new version MC2.4.1 build 4
(from 17th Nov). So back to my questions...
Has anyone got the recording to work on a PC? (I'm on Win2000) With
what compression? and which khz? Which extension for the recorded
sound? I have just tried .mov which I saw in a posting, what about
.aif, .au or .wav? Does each of them correspond to a particular
compression? Sorry for my ignorance.
I was also wondering about trying to launch the PC built-in sound
recording panel (which I usually use to record my voice on PC, but
outside MetaCard), but I do not know how to launch the panel from
within PC, and I was hoping MC's new recording capability would make
this unnecessary (as it actually has on Mac). My aim is to let
students record their own voice, listen to it and compare it to a
model voice. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.
--
1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: signe.sanne at roman.uib.no
Romansk Institutt tel: +47 55 58 21 27
Oysteins gt. 1
5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html
Norway
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From: "Vinciane BAUDOUX" <vinciane-baudoux at freegates.be>
Subject: Re: Printing Field Text
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:50:07 +0100
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References: <200111200149.UAA29645 at www.runrev.com><200111201238.HAA04864 at www.runrev.com> <200111201458.JAA06498 at www.runrev.com><200111202037.PAA03967 at www.runrev.com> <200111202324.SAA05718 at www.runrev.com>
Is there a clean way to download the Web based documentation isntead of the
RTFer (I mean, another way than just going sublink after sublink and
downloading each page) ? Or could you maybe stuf or zip or wathever and
e-mail me the text files ?
Thanks anyway,
Vinciane.
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From: Geoff Canyon <gcanyon at inspiredlogic.com>
To: <metacard at www.runrev.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Printing Field Text
> At 9:33 PM +0100 11/20/01, Vinciane BAUDOUX wrote:
> >I saw that this is the documentation package for Revolution, not for
> >Metacard. Are they interchangeable ?
>
> Arrgh. RTFer won't work in MetaCard. It will open, but the stacks it looks
for won't be there. The documentation concerns many of the same topics,
however, so much of the information is transferrable, and you can use RTFer
with the starter kit.
>
> I'll have to look at doing the equivalent of RTFer for MetaCard.
>
> regards,
>
> Geoff
>
>
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From: andu <undo at cloud9.net>
Subject: Re: andu -> http proxy username & password?
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:05:33 -0500
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References: <200111210145.UAA07155 at www.runrev.com>
Alex Shaw wrote:
>
> Hi Andu,
>
> I've a machine behind a firewall which consists of a http proxy server
> which requires authentication. I posted this question previously .. back it
> the mc2.3.2 days. Is a solution available with 2.4? And how does it work?
No, but I can put it on the list.
>
> regards
> alex
>
> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/
> Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm
> Please send bug reports to <bugs at metacard.com>, not this list.
Andu
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From: fuegox at mac.com
Subject: Re: QT from the 'Net?
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:04:34 -0800
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In-Reply-To: <200111210417.XAA08805 at www.runrev.com>
On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 08:16 PM, Charles Buchwald wrote:
> I saw this in the ReadMe:
>
>> The player object now will accept URLs in its fileName property, which
>> will cause QuickTime's internal networking routines to download and
>> play the file. This also allows playback of streaming video.
>
> Can't seem to get it to work. I can get the same movie to play when it's
> local, but not from a server. Caching it doesn't help.
>
> MacOS 9.2, QuickTime 5.0.2, MC 2.4.1
>
> Any suggestions?
Are you trying to stream the video? If so, are you running OS X Server
on the system where the video resides? That is required for the video
to stream. If you want to just download the video and then play it,
that is possible. I have not tried this on 2.4.1 yet. But I used to do
it all the time on 2.3.2 and it worked well.
-Mark Talluto
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From: sadhu at castandcrew.com (Sadhunathan Nadesan)
Subject: Re: Using a stack as a small data base
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:35:17 -0800
In-Reply-To: Kevin Miller <kevin at runrev.com>
"Re: Using a stack as a small data base" (Oct 16, 17:52)
Kevin, you sent me this a while back: (on how to save data with
standalones)
| You need to place the stack that you want to save changes in an external
| file, then reference this stack using the stackFiles property. When you
| load your standalone, load this stack, make changes and save as normal.
| Developers often place such stacks in a "data" folder. Distribution Builder
| can do all of this automatically when you create a Distribution.
|
| Regards,
|
| Kevin
I finally got around to this, also, to reading the article on stackfiles
on the xworlds web site. Finally made it work. Wasn't easy for me,
but, it does work, at last. So, a few notes for the list someone may
someday find helpful, elaborating on a couple of minor points.
One gotcha, and a reason I'm trying to post this to the mailing list, is
that in the stackfiles property there cannot be a space after the comma
after stack name and before the path/file name. That is unexpected
(for Unix developers anyway) that white space matters, but I suppose
the convention of allowing spaces in file names on other systems may
be responsible?
In any case, for others out there like me stuggling to "save data" in
their stand alone applications, the basic idea is that you have your
stand alone executable be a stack that opens another stack (or stacks).
This other stack is NOT a substack of your main stack. It is located by
the first stack using the fact that the stackfiles property can contain
a stack name, comma, full or relative file path name. So if your primary
stack (which is compiled as the executable) has a statement like
go foostack
and the stackfiles property contains a line like
foostack,Data/foostack.mc
Then it can find it, without it being a substack.
Per earlier note, it wasn't working for me when I had it as
foostack, Data/foostack.mc
And that took a while to grasp what was wrong.
But if this is correct, then the first stack can find the second stack,
and this second stack is not compiled into your executable, it is a
separate MC file for data (doesn't have to have an .mc extension).
Then your 2nd or data stack has to have some save code which again is
relative to the main executable, and has the file name, such as
save this stack as "Data/foostack.mc"
Those are the basic elements for saving data that are now working for me.
Kevin, thank you for your help.
Aloha,
Sadhu
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